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The Parables
Started by LovingNeighbor at 03-24-2006 11:51 AM. Topic has 2 replies.
  
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 03-24-2006, 11:51 AM
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LovingNeighbor
 
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Below is the 3 witnesses of the Parable of The Sower, please share your insites, studies, and comments by replying. The goal of this thread is to get many angles to help us better understand the parables.
The Sower
Mat 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
Mar 4:3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
Mat 13:4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
Mar 4:4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
Luk 8:5 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
Mat 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
Mar 4:5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
Luk 8:6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
Mat 13:6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
Mar 4:6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
Mat 13:7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
Mar 4:7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
Luk 8:7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.
Mat 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Mar 4:8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
Luk 8:8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mar 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
Mar 4:13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Luk 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
Luk 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Mar 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
Luk 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
Mar 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
Mat 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Mar 4:18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
Mar 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Luk 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
Mat 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
Mar 4:20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
Luk 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
A disciple should diligently search for the truth and humbly deny and reconsider it's possession.
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03-24-2006, 11:59 AM
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LovingNeighbor
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Shalom all,
Soon I will post a more indepth look at how Messiah explains this parable, but one fo the first things to make a note on is how in Mark Messiah says know ye not the Parable of the sower, How then will you know all parables. This is a great piece of information because I believe it is telling us this is the first parable or riddle we must study and figure out. It will then help us to know other parables. So let's meditate on it and I'm eager to see what people have to say about it and what they see here based off the texts. I put the witnesses right nect to each other so we can examine them and compare them. noticing the common things, and noticing the extra information. I will post a study on this parable shortly. Shalom
Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
A disciple should diligently search for the truth and humbly deny and reconsider it's possession.
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05-24-2006, 4:12 AM
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Re: The Sower
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First of all, a parable is not a riddle, but a story told in easily understood terms to relate a spiritual truth or truths. It is a metaphor or a simile, not a riddle. Also, Yeshua explains ALL his parables, giving the Remez or Sod understanding. Then he usually gives the D'Rash application. IOW, there is very little left to figure out, save it's personal application to each of us.
You are correct that this is the first parable. It shows the way the stories will all illustrate a truth beyond the common understanding.
He told the talmidim that it was not for everyone to understand the spiritual truths he was teaching, but for those to whom he gives the understanding - those of us who can receive the truth, those who are filled with his Spirit.
The first thing I noticed that was DIFFERENT in one from the rest was the reason the seed that fell on rocky ground withered. Luke tells us it was because it had no moisture. Here is the additionnal info the other 2 left out.
What is the thing that holds moisture in a field? One reason a farmer breaks up the earth and then disks the clods until they are ground to fine earth is so the roots can grow deep to find moisture below the surface. I think the thing to take away from that is that we need to allow Yeshua to break up our fallow ground, work it over until we are soft enough to receive both the seed and the water of the word so that it can take deep root and live through the tough times we'll necessarily go through.
For those of you who are frequenting Eddie's room on PalTalk Sabbath mornings, his purpose is to break us loose from our comfortable situations (break up fallow ground) and get us ready (disking us) for what's coming against us in the near future (drought and famine). He is sounding the shofar to be ready to move as Ruach guides us. We need to be free of all encumberances and things that make us slaves to the world's system so that we can just move out when YHWH gives the command.
We are, generally speaking, too attached to our STUFF, which most of us don't own anyway (the bank or credit card company does). We are 'house and material poor', having bought more stuff that we could really afford to live 'the American Dream'. We need to minimalize so we can just pick up and leave. He will give us both the ability and the command to leave when the time comes. It's on us to make ready and listen for the command.
All that from the word moisture.
Luke also tells us of the seed that fell on the wayside and was 'trodden down'. This is seed that fell outside the field near the road and hence was trodden down. This ground was unplowed and the only seed that got ANY earth here was crushed under foot. I don't think this describes any of us, but I COULD be wrong about that.
The emoticon went here, not in the title. This board works funny.
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